Victor Thomas Coughtrey
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Actually, these messages are not really archived - you can still reply to them. It's just that I'm gradually modernizing the code for the whole site. I couldn't be bothered to re-write the code for the whole of the Notice Board in one go, so I've done the small 2005 bit first (why is it small? More messages, please). Replies, if any, to these earlier messages are published underneath the original messages, on yellow panels. You can still reply to any message, by quoting the message number. |
DATE: 26 October 2004 NAME: Lisa COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 29: I so enjoyed your pictures of Hampstead Heath and was very moved by your description of your feeling about this very magical most special place. |
DATE: 26 October 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 29: Thank you, Lisa. I hope more Hampstead Heath enthusiasts will send messages for this this board.. |
DATE: 25 October 2004 NAME: Janette Slade COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 28: Great site! Never knew it existed. Back in 1987 I was contacted by James Coughtrey from Nottingham, who very kindly sent me a copy of the Coughtrey family tree. The last correspondence I had was from David J L Coughtrey in October 1990 who said that James has passed away and he was putting the Coughtrey Association on ice for the time being. I am now unable to contact David or find out who has the original records and certificates. Have you any idea? My Grandfather was Albert George Coughtrey who was born in Chesham 07/03/1878 and married Edith Hounslow 1878. Albert was involved in the Salvation Army and James had done a few pages about his life. Love to hear from anyone. |
DATE: 26 October 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 28: Your grandfather and mine were almost certainly brothers. They had another brother, Frederick, according to evidence from a recent correspondent (who has not yet given permission for her message to 'go public' on this board). I didn't even know about the Coughtrey Association, although James certainly tried to sell me a copy of his work. I quite unaccountably declined the offer on the grounds that I shouldn't have to pay for it! Why did I imagine anyone would be prepared to do all that work at their own expense? I think he must have caught me in a very bad mood! |
DATE: 21 August 2004 NAME: David Hoskin COUNTRY: AUSTRALIA MESSAGE 27: I evidently did not have such a bad time as you at QE, but can certainly relate to some of the themes of your biography as I was also a non- sporting boy. Actually, I do not remember you but you must have been in the same year (1955-63). I am a contemporary of Amos, Askew, Bastick, Beeney... Leicester House, Ken Carter form master in 1B. I visited QE with my wife a few years ago and was pleased to be shown around by Eamonn Harris and Eric Shearley (yes, the very same STILL teaching part-time). Why is there no comprehensive website for old boys' reminiscences - yours is a good start but it must be possible to assemble a complete listing on the net somehow. Why has nobody written a history of a school founded in 1573? I am semi-retired and work in a second-hand bookshop and most Australian schools document their (very short) histories in properly produced books. I am still in contact with: Dick Costin, Graham Currell, Richard Dodd, I have lost contact with: John Paterson, Tony Curry, Jerry Golland, Geoff Smith, Dick Scarff. |
DATE: 23 August 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 27: Great to hear from you, David! Actually, I wasn't in the the same year at first. I started the previous year ('54) but was 'kept down' for a year, so ended up in the same year as you. The lack of a readily available and up-to-date book on the history of the school is certainly surprising. I saw a booklet about it once, but that was published at least 25 years ago, and I can't track it down now. Can anyone help? As to a website of the kind you mention, it's a great idea, so I've gone and registered a domain name already and have started constructing the site. The address will be www.stapyltonfield.com, but don't try to find it yet - I won't put it up unless and until enough interest is shown. Perhaps you could canvas the opinions of those Old Boys you are still in touch with? I'll email a few people, too. |
DATE: 4 July 2004 NAME: Susan Coughtrey COUNTRY: AUSTRALIA MESSAGE 26: Hi, we're a branch of the Coughtrey family in Sydney. My father in law and brother in law are both Des Coughtrey. I've noticed that there is also a Des Coughtrey in Canada. Is this a family name? All the Coughtrey's in Sydney are from the one family... Albert and Ann Coughtrey who were my husbands' grandparents. Our family also has a history of mostly boys. |
DATE: 4 July 2004 NAME: Hekkan Wasin COUNTRY: SWEDEN MESSAGE 25: I saw your notes about Farnborough 1952. Is mr Kenneth Johansen a Swede? I myself, born 1945, will always remember the minute in 1952 when my father had bought the newspaper with the horrible pictures in it. Today I am an aerospace reporter on a daily newspaper in Linkvping, Sweden, and will in two weeks go to my 11th Farnborough airshow (first visit 1984). |
DATE: 21 May 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 25: Many thanks for contacting me, Hekkan! Yes,Kenneth is a Swede. Why not email him? (See message 21, below). I'm afraid I haven't been to Farnborough since 1976, when the Eagle (or was it the Blackbird?) made its first appearance. I haven't any excuse for not going, as I lived only 20 miles away until very recently! |
DATE: 21 May 2004 NAME: Tony & Mae Ansett COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 24: I was stunned and dumbfounded to see our relatives on your website. Thanks to your description I have taken my son Alan and his cousin Richard to Plumstead to visit Ancona Road and 114 Parkdale Road, we then went for a pub lunch to the Old Mill Pub on Plumstead Common, a great Pub built around an old mill and was probably visited by our grandparents. It is forty two years since we met and am very much looking forward to seeing you soon. |
DATE: 21 May 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 24: Yet another wonderful result of running this website! I was very happy indeed when I got your message and will arrange to meet you as soon as possible. [Just to remind visitors - Tony is my cousin, my mother's nephew]. It was particularly gratifying that you were inpired to go with Alan to see the ancestral homes! I'd love to borrow any pictures you took, to put them on the site. I hope we can establish a family link with the other Tony Ansett (see message 9). The information that you got from the first chapter of the saga prompted me to go back and read it again, whereupon I spotted a howler. I said that our grandmother Rosa moved to Silvertown with just the one child - my mother. But, of course, she had your father with her, too!. Just a momentary lapse of concentration, but a bad one. I've now corrected it. |
DATE: 23 January 2004 NAME: Paul Graver COUNTRY: AUSTRALIA MESSAGE 23: I came across your site while researching the name for a client. We have just been engaged to carry out a funeral for the late LILLIAN COUGHTREY. At the moment we only know that Lillian married a Stanley Coughtrey who is also deceased. His ashes were sent back to England and are now in Epsom, Surrey. Her neighbour and friend has asked us to send the ashes back to England to be placed with her Husband's. As far as we know they have no children of their own but Lilian has a Sister who has Alzeimers and another that died last year. As we have received the call just a short while ago I have not been able to get any further information, however when I do, I will email you again. I would appreciate it if you would place this on your site just in case anything turns up in the next few days. Lillian and Stanley lived in Perth, Western Australia if this helps. |
DATE: 23 January 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 23: I'm very sorry to hear that my Aunt Lil has died. I had no idea that my Uncle Stan was already dead. They were almost certainly the last survivors out of my many uncles and aunts and were, in fact, the youngest The assumption that they had no children is correct - they were not able to. The last time I saw them was in 1951 (I think). They had come to say goodbye, as they were about to emigrate to Australia on the £10 scheme. They sent food hampers from time to time - very welcome, as there were still shortages in Britain. They went to see my mother while in Britain in the 80s, but I only spoke to Stan on the phone. Somewhere, I have a photograph of Lil and a friend on a ship. I'll try to find it. Meanwhile, if there are any visitors to this site who have any further info to offer, please respond to the message above, either for publication on this board or privately. |
DATE: 20 January 2004 NAME: Kenneth Johansson COUNTRY: SWEDEN
MESSAGE 22: Thank you for Fireworks.
Your English is absolutely impeccable, at least
as far as I can judge. I've also learned quite a
few new words from you. 'Nimbyist' puzzled me for a
while, but thanks to Google I was soon
enlightened.
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DATE: 20 January 2004 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 22: Thank you for your words of encouragement, Ken, also for the correction. I've now put right the caption in question. I can explain how the mistake came about, though. There was a subsidiary (or some equally complicated arrangement) of Armstrong-Siddeley, called Armstrong-Whitworth. To confuse matters further, Armstrong-Whitworth produced an aircraft (a bomber) called the Whitley! |
DATE: 19 January 2004 NAME: Neil Coughtrey COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 21: Having just found this site, after researching the origins of my surname on and off for the last few years, sad to say I read nothing that strikes a chord with my lineage. Father, Reginald John and his brother Ted (did have a sister whose name is not known to me) grew up in or around Catford. Their father, again, the name is not known, died before I was born in 1969. I do know that his first wife may have died, or parhaps they were divorced, as he married Mary. They had a daughter named Sheila. Anyway, I'm glad to see that the name does have a Celtic origin, as I often say the name originates from Scotland although not Scottish itself. Does anyone know if there is a clan tartan the Coughtrey name is allied to? |
DATE: 27 December 2003 NAME: John Bibby COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 20: Fascinating reminiscences about QE! [See Chapters 8-11]. I was there 1955-59, having been at Underhill Primary. In 1959 I went to a VERY different school in Hull (mixed, less academic, fewer pretensions, un-brutal). I was MUCH happier. Although QE did not damage me (I think), I realise now how dreadful it was. Anyone of my friends from QE, please drop me a line (Jimmy Bradford, Will Upsdale, Harry Johnson, the Sinclairs, Andrew Smith, Pete Connor, Tim Dunningham, David Hills, Edward Millar). I recently met Derek Brough again (Asker/Bibby/Brough - the alphabetical start of our form). Also Nick Pollard, but unfortunately he died in early 2002. |
DATE: 27 December 2003 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 20: I was so pleased to get your message, John! Now that you've contacted me, I remember you very well! Somehow your name and those of Jim Bradford and Derek Brough had slipped from my memory. Also, Nick Pollard. I'm sorry to hear that he died. You would all have gone on my list of "reasonable types" (a choice of phrase in Chapter 10 that's causing some amusement, actually). And here, of course, is an interesting point - the list of reasonable boys is getting longer all the time, in retrospect. It just shows the disproportionate effect that an unpleasant minority can have. By the way, if any of the "unpleasant minority" come across this site, I'd love to hear from you, too - I'm sure you're all thoroughly likeable people 45 years on! |
DATE: 16 December 2003 NAME: Anon COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 19: I am presently studying at QE. I found your experience of your time at QE very amusing. It has changed a great deal since you studied there, yet it is still very strict. Most people in QE would agree that our school is a dreadful place to get an education! [Webmaster's note: You gave me your name, but I've made you anonymous because it wasn't clear if your message was for publication!] |
DATE: 12 November 2003 NAME: Ken COUNTRY: SWEDEN MESSAGE 18: Vic, I can't wait for the next instalment of your biography. Why not publish it as a book and make a few bucks? It's compulsive reading, perhaps because many of us can indentify with much of it. |
DATE: 31 August 2003 NAME: Mark COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 17: I really find your site fascinating, a wonderful journey into the past, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Is it entirely true or has it been romanticised at all? I was curious as to whether any sections were added for poetic licence, e.g. the factory girls and the lunchtime footsie (their stockinged feet, your crotch as you put it). Did this REALLY happen? I never knew any girls like that back then... I clearly grew up in the wrong part of the country. If it is true you must have had quite a pull for the ladies, did they do it because they fancied you, do you think or were they just having a laugh? Once again, congratulations on a marvellous site. |
DATE: 4 September 2003 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY:WALES REPLY to MESSAGE 17: Thanks for the compliment, Mark. I am happy to assure you that nothing on the site has been made up, romanticised or exaggerated. All I am guilty of is omission, partly due to gaps in memory (if I'm not sure I've remembered something accurately I leave it out or say "as far as I can remember..."), and partly due to the fact that there are some things in everyone's life that are best left unpublished! As to the Leeds factory lasses, I've actually given an understated account of their usual conversation, for decency's sake. I found them refreshing after the stuffiness of suburban London girls, but I think it's pretty obvious that they were teasing rather than fancying! |
DATE: 1 July 2003 NAME: Anon COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 16: Having been searching on Google for Queen Elizabeth's School, Barnet, I came across your site. I'd just like to say that it is very well written and captivating to read, especially the chapters on the school which I am now (un)fortunate to attend. Nice to see how things have (not) changed in the past 45 years! |
DATE: 4 July 2003 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: WALES
REPLY to MESSAGE 16: I was very pleased to get this message from a present-day student of the dreaded establishment at last. I'm not sure I believe the place can be as bad as it was nearly half a century back, although the fact that you have asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals from the Gowns (do they still wear them?), is not a good sign. I was mildly surprised to hear that a couple of sixth formers were suspended for 2 months each
for posting on queboys. Pity that site is no longer maintained. |
DATE: 20 June 2003 NAME: Caroline Boston COUNTRY: CANADA MESSAGE 15: My mother and I have been enjoying your wonderful website. Our John Coughtrey Turner came from Chesham. We do not know who his parents were...perhaps a female Coughtrey married a Turner? Here's what we have on him: 1881 Census return from 21 Beckway Street, Newington, Surrey, England.
John C. TURNER, head of household, 61, b.Chesham, Bucks. Has ever run across this John Coughtrey Turner while researching? Perhaps noticed who his parents were? We did find, on IGI, an Edward Turner who married a Philippa Coughtrey 24 July 1815 in Latimer, Bucks, but we cannot find her baptism on IGI. I understand that there are many variations of the spelling COUGHTREY. What do you think of the CAUDERY/CAWDRY family from Wendover? Could those names be a variation of COUGHTREY? I'd appreciate any input anyone may have. |
DATE: 26 February 2003 NAME: Nigel Palmer COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 14: Your website is the genie's lamp bringing us together after 40 years. Can you imagine my amazement when I saw my name? The house and my parents are long gone but the memories live on. I'll see you soon for the return of that loan! It should be enough for you to buy me a pint of London Pride. |
DATE: 26 February 2003 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND REPLY to MESSAGE 14: Yes, this astounding reunion has certainly made all the toil and doubts involved in doing this website worthwhile. We are already exchanging lengthy communications privately, so I'll keep this short! And just to set my other visitors' minds at rest, the pint of Pride is a foregone conclusion! |
DATE: 16 December 2002 NAME: Jim Wager COUNTRY: ENGLAND
MESSAGE 13: I enjoyed reading your
unfinished autobiography, Vic. You're a good writer. You should try and
publish this as a book. |
DATE: 18 December 2002 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND REPLY to MESSAGE 13: Thanks for your nice comments, Jim. I certainly agree that things get better all the time after about 40 (well, with luck, I hear someone say). One of the hopes I had when embarking on the project was that visitors would find common ground, in place, time or experience, so it was great to get your message. |
DATE: 28 November 2002 NAME: Sarah Coughtrey née Edwards COUNTRY: ENGLAND
MESSAGE 12: I am new to the Coughtrey family. I married Colin Coughtrey of High Wycombe in June of this year and am having fun and games with the pronunciation of the name. We pronounce it "Cough tree", although it is often pronounced "cow-tree or "coventy" to name a couple of regular examples. |
DATE: 26 June 2002 NAME: Marilyn Hartnoll-White COUNTRY: AUSTRALIA MESSAGE 11: My great-grandmother was Caroline Elizabeth Coughtrey. She married Robert Archibald White. (Amersham, Chesham, Wycombe). They emigrated to Australia in 1879 and settled in Adelaide SA. Robert worked for the railways and invented mechanical 'bits and pieces'. He had several trips to the UK to patent his inventions. He died in Bucks on one of these trips. Does anyone have any connections? I have a considerable amount of basic information. |
DATE: 26 June 2002 NAME:Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND
REPLY to MESSAGE 11: I am descended from the Chesham Coughtreys myself - my grandfather moved from there to London in the 1890s. As a small child, I remember that my grandfather's most frequently used expletive was "Well, I'll go to Amersham!". It was apparently used quite a lot among non-Amersham Coughtreys! |
DATE: 07 June 2002 NAME: Deri COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 10: I am a 35 yr old Coughtrey. Born in Clacton-on-Sea. My name is Deri and I am one of five children. My Father was born in Uckfield, Sussex. He is also one of five children. I am married and living in Shoreham-by-Sea, West Sussex. I have two sons, Harrison (7) and Jordan (4). You can appreciate the pros and cons of growing up with such an unusual surname. However, I have been surprised to discover many other Coughtreys in the area!! My father has carried out a small amount of research into our name and we now know that it originated in Scotland and was originally Ochiltree and was adapted to McCoutree. However, when the McCoutrees left Scotland for England, in order to settle more effectively, the surname was again adapted and became Coughtrey. This info was gained from The Book of Scottish surnames by Black. Obviously, the book goes into more detail, re dates etc. Im sure you will find it an interesting read!! Hope this has been of interest to you and if you have any further info, I would be pleased to hear from you. |
DATE: 10 June 2002 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND
REPLY to MESSAGE 10: Many thanks for all this info, Deri. Actually, I was just mentioning Shoreham in the latest exhilerating chapter of my saga when your message arrived. Passing through the area at the time (1965) I noticed Coughtrey’s timber yard in, I think, the Old Shoreham Road. Never got round to making enquiries, though. |
DATE: 09 May 2002 NAME: Tony Ansett COUNTRY: AUSTRALIA
MESSAGE 9:
Vic, I see you are an Ansett on your mother’ side. As far as I know Ansett or Anset is a one family name in the World. I have traced the name back to the 1500s in Kent and my direct line back to the early 1700s. |
DATE: 04 May 2002 NAME: Sarah Fisk COUNTRY: ENGLAND MESSAGE 8: I have just come across the name Coughtrey whilst doing my genealogy research. My GGGG Grandmother was Elizabeth Coughtrey who married William Fenemore. All of this side of the family come from Tring in Hertfordshire. If I have got my info. from 1881 census correct she would have been born around 1814-15. Does anyone have any info. on this branch of the family? TIA Sarah. |
DATE: 22 January 2002 NAME: James Coughtrey COUNTRY: WALES MESSAGE 7: Just a short memo, I am a 39yr old Coughtrey, living in South Wales. I am married with two sons, and come from a family of four other children. At one stage my father was in contact with a distant relative who building the family tree. I got a lot of the information from this but I have yet to collate it all. |
DATE: 22 July 2001 NAME: "The Coughtreys" COUNTRY: ? MESSAGE 6: Many thanks for creating this Website. On my first visit I was amazed to see that someone was searching for my Father, Mike and my Mother, Vanessa. I'm very pleased to say that having searched for some 16 years, Mr Adams has finally been reunited with my parents, and all thanks to your Website. Having revisited the site today, I have been trying to e-mail Lynn from Scotland, who e-mailed you in February. Unfortunately, the e-mail link was lost. [Webmaster's note: Sorry I destroyed the link to Lynn, also to Des Coughtrey of Canada, through a silly error. If anyone could let me have either of these two email addresses I could restore the links]. |
DATE: 25 April 2001 NAME: Louise Sawyer (née Coughtrey) COUNTRY: ENGLAND (Nottingham) MESSAGE 5: Hi, I found this site by accident and found it really interesting. My father's name is Michael Coughtrey and he married Victoria Crawley. I have a younger sister named Tracey. My grandfather's name was Frank Coughtrey and he married my grandmother Edith Hayes. My grandfather died from cancer when I was only three months old, so I never got a chance to meet him. If anyone else has any information on Frank I would be very interested to hear from you.
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DATE: 30 July 2002 NAME: Delia COUNTRY: ? REPLY to MESSAGE 5: Having found this site, I have already contacted Louise, but I am still trying to find out more about my grandmother, Edith Helen Hayes. All I know about my great grandmother is that she worked as a domestic servant in Northampton around 1906 (I don't know how old she was then but probably around 20 years old). She had an illegitimate daughter in 1906, my grandmother. Thanks in advance. |
DATE: 11 April 2001 NAME: S.Adams COUNTRY: ENGLAND
MESSAGE 4: I am looking for a Mike (J) Coughtrey and wife Vanessa who lived in the Romford area until moving to Clacton in the early 1970’s.
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DATE: 25 April 2001 NAME:Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND REPLY to MESSAGE 4: I'm delighted to hear that Mike and Vanessa have now got in touch with you as a result of your message. |
DATE: 18 March 2001 NAME: Pauline COUNTRY: CANADA MESSAGE 3: I believe our grandfathers were brothers, mine - Edward William Coughtrey, b. Sept 1863, married Annie Maria Morgan - St Mark’s, Victoria Docks, West Ham. Was your grandfather born 1865? |
DATE: 25 March 2001 NAME: Vic Coughtrey (Webmaster) COUNTRY: ENGLAND REPLY to MESSAGE 3: I'd say you’re almost certainly right about our grandfathers, Pauline. The date of birth (1868) that I’ve given for mine on the website was a guess. I’ve no documents for Alf except a fragment of burial certificate, and I haven’t gone in for any research at all - it’s just family lore, sometimes (but not in this case) backed up by certificates. I’d certainly like to hear from any of you researchers out there, confirming (or otherwise) Pauline’s theory. |
DATE: 19 Feb 2001 NAME: Lynn [email link lost] COUNTRY: SCOTLAND MESSAGE 2: Hi Victor - excellent site and very interesting reading. Looking for any Coughtries (and variant spellings) whose ancestors may have originated in Scotland, particularly Ayrshire. Thanks. |
DATE: 12 Jan 2001 NAME: Thomas Desmond Coughtrey [email link lost] COUNTRY: CANADA MESSAGE 1: Great to read your family history and find another Thomas Coughtrey. I’ll cover it again and be in touch further. |